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« on: August 15, 2011, 08:39PM »

Hey guys.  Hope I'm in the right spot.

I'm writing a story, and one of the main characters is Irish, and I was wondering if you guys could give me a list of last names with "Ni" in them, kinda like Meav's last name.  And tell me what those names mean and how to pronounce them please?  I just want a REALLY beautiful last name for the character.  Thanks guys.  Google is not helping me lol.
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2011, 11:54AM »

I'm no Irish expert, but I read here on the forum that the "Ní" is not part of one's surname, but is used to show a woman who is unmarried or who has chosen to keep her last name after marriage. To use Méav as an example, the Ní would mean "daughter of Mhaolchatha" or "daughter of the Mhaolchatha clan". So it is my understanding that any woman can have "Ní" in front of her last name, just as long as she is unmarried or has kept her original surname. But as you can see, there are many Irish women without it, so I think is it up to the individual if she decides to include it in her name or not.

I think I got that right, but hopefully someone will be able to elaborate more.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 12:16PM »

I'm no Irish expert, but I read here on the forum that the "Ní" is not part of one's surname, but is used to show a woman who is unmarried or who has chosen to keep her last name after marriage. To use Méav as an example, the Ní would mean "daughter of Mhaolchatha" or "daughter of the Mhaolchatha clan". So it is my understanding that any woman can have "Ní" in front of her last name, just as long as she is unmarried or has kept her original surname. But as you can see, there are many Irish women without it, so I think is it up to the individual if she decides to include it in her name or not.

I think I got that right, but hopefully someone will be able to elaborate more.

Ummmmm thanks.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 12:23PM »

I'm pretty sure Mikey is correct.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 12:53PM »

I'm pretty sure Mikey is correct.

I know but it wasn't exactly what I was asking for.  I just wanted some suggestions.  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 03:31PM »

Lisa Kellys last name is cool.    Ní Cheallaigh
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 04:44PM »

so "son of x family/tribe" would be Mac something?
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 06:02PM »

Lisa Kellys last name is cool.    Ní Cheallaigh

Yeah I love that one!
The character's first name is gonna be Mairead because that's my FAVORITE Irish name.  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2011, 05:11PM »

Lisa Kellys last name is cool.    Ní Cheallaigh

Yeah I love that one!
The character's first name is gonna be Mairead because that's my FAVORITE Irish name.  Smiley

I have always liked Siobhán and the ever popular Shannon. Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011, 06:23AM »

according to what Maggie once told us," son of" is O`...like O`Donnell and Ni is "daughter of"....like Meav `s name or our own Hayley Ni Bleaoleafh here on the forum.
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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2011, 07:04PM »

according to what Maggie once told us," son of" is O`...like O`Donnell and Ni is "daughter of"....like Meav `s name or our own Hayley Ni Bleaoleafh here on the forum.

That's right. Cheesy O and Ni are generally very formal as well. Buuut I personally think that if you take names and drop the O or Ni... it sounds slightly eh... odd? Haha maybe odd is not the right word. But I'm also used to the Ni so anything else WOULD sound "odd" to me Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2011, 11:14AM »

I'm pretty sure Mikey is correct.

I know but it wasn't exactly what I was asking for.  I just wanted some suggestions.  Smiley

I was just trying to say that any Irish woman can have the "Ní" in front of her last name, but maybe you were looking for those Irish last names that looked the best with the "Ní" in front if it? Kind of like how "Ní Cheallaigh" looks better than "Ní Kelly"?

While browsing through the list of singers on the Anúna website, other than Méav I found "Mairéad Ní Fhaoláin". Hope that helps.  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2011, 04:27PM »

wonder what does Fhaoláin means? wolf?
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2011, 02:30PM »

wonder what does Fhaoláin means? wolf?
I have no idea what it means. I have enough trouble trying to pronounce it correctly. haha  Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2011, 07:43PM »

wonder what does Fhaoláin means? wolf?
I have no idea what it means. I have enough trouble trying to pronounce it correctly. haha  Cheesy
Yes I think it does mean wolf and I think its pronounced fway-lin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh and another spelling is Faolán!!! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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